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nomination where there have been democrats as well as republicans complaining about his views on iran, iraq, israel. he, as colin powell said, can defend himself very well and he has been talking to as many as 30 senators in advance of the hearings that he hopes are going to take place fairly quickly once the senate comes back. but that's after the inauguration. and meanwhile, the opposition could build. >> andrea, i'm going to let you go here in just a second, but do you want to give us a quick preview of what you have coming up at 1:00 on "andrea mitchell reports"? >> we're waiting as you are to hear what the president has to say because we know he wants to outline the view on the debt ceiling. i was talking to whoufs officials over the weekend and they are not going to retreat to the 14th andment or any work arounds. they are laughing off the platinum coin, as you know, as a nonstarter and federal reserve said they would not buy that asset. that means it is absolutely a nonstarter. it would not have the intended effect that son of its supporters would like. so they are putting it right back on c
nomination where there have been democrats as well as republicans complaining about his views on iran, iraq, israel. he, as colin powell said, can defend himself very well and he has been talking to as many as 30 senators in advance of the hearings that he hopes are going to take place fairly quickly once the senate comes back. but that's after the inauguration. and meanwhile, the opposition could build. >> andrea, i'm going to let you go here in just a second, but do you want to give us...
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. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are concerned hagel is soft on iran and too tough on israel. > >> he's had a record of distinguished service but he's wrong on a number of the national security issues that face our country today. >> reporter: hagel insists his views are distorted. he's also under fire for criticizing a clinton nominee as "openly aggressively guy." >> it's dangerous to roll the dice on this issue. >> reporter: all questions lawmakers are eager to ask whether confirmation hearings get underway. now hagel did get a high profile endorsement not here on the hill. it was from former secretary of state colin powell, the general said he's independent. he's bold. he thinks both inside and outside the box. >> thanks so much. >> reporter: so remember a few weeks back when we told you how treasury secretary tim geithner said he figured out a way to keep the government defaulting on the debt for two months? not so fast. a new analysis by the bipartisan policy center says the u.s. may default a month earlier than expected. they say the government will likely run out of mone
. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are concerned hagel is soft on iran and too tough on israel. > >> he's had a record of distinguished service but he's wrong on a number of the national security issues that face our country today. >> reporter: hagel insists his views are distorted. he's also under fire for criticizing a clinton nominee as "openly aggressively guy." >> it's dangerous to roll the dice on this issue. >> reporter: all questions...
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in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it this way. i have no interest in jumping in the press. he was fully supportive of the effort, but he had very little interest of playing the puff erry games in the media. what do you make of the criticism from the other side, particularly the criticism that democratic presidents, in some cases have almost reflexively chosen republicans to run the defense department. and republicans are the national defense and democrats are not. >> leon panetta is secretary of defense now and he has put himself between bob gates and ch
in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it...
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i should have said pro-israel lobby. i think it's the only time on the record that i've ever said that. now, you all have done a lot of work with my record and, yes, it is appropriate, by the way. >> senator, is that answer acceptable to you? >> well, he didn't say who he was referring to. we may be able to get to that. was he talking about apac? was he talking about the various christian organizations that deeply support israel? we didn't get an answer to that. maybe we will later on. >> are you a no? i know you said that before. >> yes. i'm absolutely a no and there's nothing that's gone on today to counter what we all know. that you could not pick a united states senator from the last decade that has had more anti-israeli comments, that has had more troublesome votes or more troublesome positions or statements against the nation of israel. this vulnerable democracy in the middle east than chuck hagel. it's a stunning choice by a president obama from someone who says he's supportive of the jewish state. >> you have tha
i should have said pro-israel lobby. i think it's the only time on the record that i've ever said that. now, you all have done a lot of work with my record and, yes, it is appropriate, by the way. >> senator, is that answer acceptable to you? >> well, he didn't say who he was referring to. we may be able to get to that. was he talking about apac? was he talking about the various christian organizations that deeply support israel? we didn't get an answer to that. maybe we will later...
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joining us now is congressman steve israel, democrat from new york and head of the democratic congressional campaign committee. congressman, you and i got to speak a little bit earlier. you're to be head down there in just a moment. what are you hearing at the moment in terms of where this might go? >> well, i feel -- i mean, i hate to say it, because this is like deja vu all over again. and i repeatedly said i think we're close, and i think we're there, only to have house republicans pull the rug out from under us, throw a temper tantrum and walk away. but this time i think they mean it. and i can tell you that there will be enough democratic votes in the house of representatives to pass this bill, protect the middle class, get us some deficit reduction, and move us forward instead of off cliffs. so we will provide the votes. we'll provide the adult supervision that is necessary to govern, to provide for compromise, consensus and pragmatism and move us forward. >> okay. we're watching debate right now. what issues do you expect to be brought up as we listen to different members throughout
joining us now is congressman steve israel, democrat from new york and head of the democratic congressional campaign committee. congressman, you and i got to speak a little bit earlier. you're to be head down there in just a moment. what are you hearing at the moment in terms of where this might go? >> well, i feel -- i mean, i hate to say it, because this is like deja vu all over again. and i repeatedly said i think we're close, and i think we're there, only to have house republicans...
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steve israel was on your network earlier today. he said as much, it is nice to give it as a concession, but i frankly wanted it to be a higher level. diane feinstein said the same thing, chuck schumer, there is a huge amount of democrats that don't want taxes to kind of rise on this upper middle class that makes between 200 and $400,000, this is the circle they run with. this is not a cave, a kind of fake cave in that sense. >> okay, well, "huffington post" chief, ryan grim, thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon tomorrow. house minority leader nancy pelosi released a statement just minutes ago saying in part "when a f
steve israel was on your network earlier today. he said as much, it is nice to give it as a concession, but i frankly wanted it to be a higher level. diane feinstein said the same thing, chuck schumer, there is a huge amount of democrats that don't want taxes to kind of rise on this upper middle class that makes between 200 and $400,000, this is the circle they run with. this is not a cave, a kind of fake cave in that sense. >> okay, well, "huffington post" chief, ryan grim,...
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they come from the center of defense of the establishment of israel, it's for the benefit of israel to solve the con police headquarters -- conflict and they should do anything to solve the conflict and basically are agreeing with obama completely. >> we start from a standpoint of a jewish american. i don't think israel can go on for the next hundred years being an armed camp. eventually either economically or militarily that's not going to work. >> absolutely. and what is the forecast for the israeli youngsters that are now in israel. what do you promise them? another hundred years of war? israel has to do that strategically. she has to move towards peace in every power that she can. the israeli leadership, the current one, doesn't seem to want that or to move towards that. >> dror, explain the psychological make-up of the six men who ran the israeli secret service, who was responsible for hunting down and killing palestinians that were terrorists. what -- what is it about them that makes them all -- one of them said, quote, i think after retiring from this job you become a bit of a l
they come from the center of defense of the establishment of israel, it's for the benefit of israel to solve the con police headquarters -- conflict and they should do anything to solve the conflict and basically are agreeing with obama completely. >> we start from a standpoint of a jewish american. i don't think israel can go on for the next hundred years being an armed camp. eventually either economically or militarily that's not going to work. >> absolutely. and what is the...
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joining me now is new york congressman steve israel, congressman from new york who represents areas hard hit by superstorm sandy. steve, thank you so much, congressman, for coming on. >> sure, chris. >> you're a partisan democrat, fair enough. let's talk about this issue as a national thing. why new york, i thought they got great media coverage, when you have a baseball star in new york, they're national figures, just huge, but yet this time i do think that the media is undercut. i'm as guilty as anybody for not seeing what's right in front of our eyes, and for some reason it hasn't gotten the pictures on tv as much as, you know, katrina did. i have learned on the ground what it's like. there's some pictures we're showing now, and it ain't going away. this is a horror for many months, point pleasant, new jersey. this is going on and on for the people in these houses. >> well, look, i do not believe that this is anti-new york, chris. i believe that you now have a group of members of congress who are fairly new who are anti-government. they fundamentally and philosophically do not believe
joining me now is new york congressman steve israel, congressman from new york who represents areas hard hit by superstorm sandy. steve, thank you so much, congressman, for coming on. >> sure, chris. >> you're a partisan democrat, fair enough. let's talk about this issue as a national thing. why new york, i thought they got great media coverage, when you have a baseball star in new york, they're national figures, just huge, but yet this time i do think that the media is undercut....
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in people in israel think it's quite legitimate to not want to go to war with iran. why that has become a it will news test for people like lindsey graham is not quite clear. chuck hagel, for being opposed to the surge, he voted for the war in iraq. so, you know, there is a lot of exaggeration going on here after all these years, after the invasion of iraq, after 9/11, the idea that there is new wants in our foreign policy should be embraced there is no litmus test. this is not the day after 9/11. >> i mean, at the end of the day, no democrats are going to contest this, the way the republicans are. in the era of obstruction, the democrats may have a question or two. but they're all going to be on board. >> they're going to hang together, yes. absolutely. >> richard wolffe, great to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen, share your thoughts with us on twitter at edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, tax breaks for the rich and famous. we found some lo
in people in israel think it's quite legitimate to not want to go to war with iran. why that has become a it will news test for people like lindsey graham is not quite clear. chuck hagel, for being opposed to the surge, he voted for the war in iraq. so, you know, there is a lot of exaggeration going on here after all these years, after the invasion of iraq, after 9/11, the idea that there is new wants in our foreign policy should be embraced there is no litmus test. this is not the day after...
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he asked some questions about iran, his position on israel, and chuck schumer today coming out and saying that he feels confident that hagel is in line with where the president stands on these things, that he is willing to act unilaterally when it comes to iran and not take any options off the table, and that his position has changed because he understands that israel is now in really a defense position and is in a different place than when he made some of the those comments a few years ago. that will be the key moving forward, and, again, a lot of people looking to see what chuck schumer had to say before making the decision that, of course, barbara boxer also coming out and saying that she is going to support chuck hagel for this position. andrea. >> ruth, that clearly smooths the way because it was schumer's ambivalence and the ambivalence of other democrats, key democrats, even -- so if he weren't going to support chuck hagel, that would be a huge obstacle? >> that would have been a huge obstacle, but the cavalry was always coming, i think, i think senator schumer had concerns. i thin
he asked some questions about iran, his position on israel, and chuck schumer today coming out and saying that he feels confident that hagel is in line with where the president stands on these things, that he is willing to act unilaterally when it comes to iran and not take any options off the table, and that his position has changed because he understands that israel is now in really a defense position and is in a different place than when he made some of the those comments a few years ago....
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. >> a la israel or -- >> oh, yeah. it's going to require some logistical changes and it will require a great deal of leadership, but if you have a situation where you have more people in new york city than you had at pearl harbor and you have an all-volunteer force you're outsourcing our defense for a small number of brave young men and women. that's the next big equal opportunity. >> that's fascinating. kayla, very quickly. you're a published author now and an outspoken advocate. i've got to ask you, political future. are you thinking of running for something, maybe? perhaps? >> you know, i'm not sure that the people are that interested in electing a woman with tattoos, but i am both happy to continue serving our country in as many ways as we can. >> we've learn more about you today. >> colonel jack jacobs, kayla williams, thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. >> i'm not going ask you where the tattoos were and what they were. you like the restraint there? >> the naacp joining the lawsuit against the city of new yo
. >> a la israel or -- >> oh, yeah. it's going to require some logistical changes and it will require a great deal of leadership, but if you have a situation where you have more people in new york city than you had at pearl harbor and you have an all-volunteer force you're outsourcing our defense for a small number of brave young men and women. that's the next big equal opportunity. >> that's fascinating. kayla, very quickly. you're a published author now and an outspoken...
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and you think that he can be inclusive and is willing to certainly live up to the peace treaty with israel and be the responsible player that the white house hopes he can be? >> i'm hopeful, but frankly we're going to watch very closely his actions, as well as his words. you're right that there is a difference between what folks say before their election and then now that he is in the important role of president of the republic of egypt, but it did raise some very grave concerns, and i think it's important that we continue to express our values and to make it clear that we expect our allies to both publicly and privately act in ways that are respectful of the values that the united states stands for. >> i want to ask you also, i don't know if you've been able to check this out from cairo, but the white house has confirmed there are some americans, among 41 hostages that have now been taken at bp in algeria. during an attack from mali insurgents. do you know anything more about it? >> yes, andrea, the trip that i'm on, we were actually supposed to go to mali initially but were diverted beca
and you think that he can be inclusive and is willing to certainly live up to the peace treaty with israel and be the responsible player that the white house hopes he can be? >> i'm hopeful, but frankly we're going to watch very closely his actions, as well as his words. you're right that there is a difference between what folks say before their election and then now that he is in the important role of president of the republic of egypt, but it did raise some very grave concerns, and i...
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leveled against president obama saying that he would throw israel under the bus. the american jewish community in commit polls voted 70% for obama. they didn't believe those arguments. there are a variety of former american ambassadors to israel, leading israelis, leading jewish commentators. i myself write for a jewish newspaper at my hometown. there is significant support for chuck hagel and his positions. these are really not fair charges. he has a track record of supporting sanctions on iran, tough diplomacy with iran. >> in addition gay rights groups have also expressed opposition because of the comments he made just a little over a decade ago about american ambassador to luxembourg james hormel who is gay. i know he's apologized for these comments. what are your thoughts about that? there are still a number of gay rights advocates who have serious concerns about chuck hagel. >> this is a watershed moment in our country where the don't ask, don't tell policy has been repealed. chuck hagel has recognized the wisdom of that. came out forcefully with a response
leveled against president obama saying that he would throw israel under the bus. the american jewish community in commit polls voted 70% for obama. they didn't believe those arguments. there are a variety of former american ambassadors to israel, leading israelis, leading jewish commentators. i myself write for a jewish newspaper at my hometown. there is significant support for chuck hagel and his positions. these are really not fair charges. he has a track record of supporting sanctions on...
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bunch of members, clarify prior remarks that he's made, make clear his position on key issues like israel and iran. he's probably going to have to get a little closer to the president's public position and allay some concerns about some things he said which i think at times involved not very smart choice of words. i think that ought to do it. i think, you know, senator schumer probably doesn't want to be a no to bring down a presidential nominee at this point. i think schumer needs to demonstrate he asked some tough questions. i think hagel can get pass it it if he has some good meetings and he essentially swanlgs some concerns here. >> ken talked about that this morning that he thought schumer was the key as well. how much of this do you think is republicans that just want to say no and how much is genuine concern? >> i think the fed, john mccain is keeping an open mind on this. that's encouraging if you're chuck hagel in the white house. but i would argue that the most critical meeting chuck hagel will have in the coming days is chuck schumer. he has to be able to answer the questions o
bunch of members, clarify prior remarks that he's made, make clear his position on key issues like israel and iran. he's probably going to have to get a little closer to the president's public position and allay some concerns about some things he said which i think at times involved not very smart choice of words. i think that ought to do it. i think, you know, senator schumer probably doesn't want to be a no to bring down a presidential nominee at this point. i think schumer needs to...
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in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it this way. i have no interest in jumping in the press. he was fully supportive of the effort, but he had very little interest of playing the puffery games in the media. >> what do you make of the criticism from the other side, particularly the criticism that democratic presidents, in some cases have almost reflexively chosen republicans to run the defense department. and republicans are the national defense and democrats are not. >> leon panetta is secretary of defense now and he has put himself between bob gates and c
in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it...
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in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it this way. i have no interest in jumping in the press. he was fully supportive of the effort, but he had very little interest of playing the puffery games in the media. what do you make of the criticism from the other side, particularly the criticism that democratic presidents, in some cases have almost reflexively chosen republicans to run the defense department. and republicans are the national defense and democrats are not. >> leon panetta is secretary of defense now and he has put himself between bob gates and chuc
in israel of the uso. chuck hagel used to be head of the uso. and he had a long relationship with hagel over the years. and he approached hagel and said i hear that you're not signing on to a press statement that other senators have signed on about getting jews out of russia. and hagel sent him a letter that he had privately sent to president clinton, as well as president clinton's response, and he said the much more effective way to push my government and to push my president is to handle it...
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i have been to israel so many times. you have doves in the community over there, you have moderates, people like perez who is almost godly in his love for peace. you got all kinds of people over there with different views. isn't the american secretary of defense allowed to have a particular view that's in the middle or slightly to the left or does it have to be bibi netanyahu to have -- >> if you go to tel aviv and look at the debate -- >> it's wide open. >> wide open. here it's much more -- >> if you're not for bibi, you're not considered pro-israel. >> chuck hagel is not a pacifist. number two, he's a war is last resort rather than war is first resort guy. i think that combined -- israel is obviously an important ally of the united states, but unless you're kicking the teeth in of israel's neighbors, then people are basically -- chuck hagel is no different than bob gates, no different than leon panetta, no different than anybody else in the obama administration. >> senator kerrey, you have been in politics all these ye
i have been to israel so many times. you have doves in the community over there, you have moderates, people like perez who is almost godly in his love for peace. you got all kinds of people over there with different views. isn't the american secretary of defense allowed to have a particular view that's in the middle or slightly to the left or does it have to be bibi netanyahu to have -- >> if you go to tel aviv and look at the debate -- >> it's wide open. >> wide open. here...
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military relationship with israel. he's voted time and again to support various authorizations and resolutions. so there's a deep record there of support for a key ally. and so i think in that sense, the israelis should feel reassured. he is within that group of americans who strongly support israel someone on the more skeptical side. one of the things that's gotten him into trouble is expressing resentment that people come up to capitol hill, you know, bearing letters from pro-israel lobbying groups, just expecting senators to sign them. he's been somebody who's said no. i'm not going to automatically sign off on policy. i want to make it myself. and i think that is a lot of senators who feel that they need to be more active in this policy sometimes than they have been. is he an advocate for that. >> so let me ask you, and i just want to confirm. so you're telling me that chuck hagel, if you look at his record, he actually has a record of strong support for israel? >> if you look at all the votes, all of the things he
military relationship with israel. he's voted time and again to support various authorizations and resolutions. so there's a deep record there of support for a key ally. and so i think in that sense, the israelis should feel reassured. he is within that group of americans who strongly support israel someone on the more skeptical side. one of the things that's gotten him into trouble is expressing resentment that people come up to capitol hill, you know, bearing letters from pro-israel lobbying...
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how concerned are you about the future of israel today? >> i'm, of course, terribly concerned because israel is the only place where jews have after all come to build their own state, 2,000 years after they have lost it to the romans, and if god forbid something happens to that state, the jewish people would not be able to take it, to deal with it, two catastrophes in our memory, it is impossible to bear and, therefore, really, we're committed to the security of israel and we try whatever we can do to help it in honor and in peace. but will still i'm worried. of course, i'm worried. statement i'm worried when other tragedies occur in this world and there are so many. >> do you feel like this country's commitment to israel is the same as it was a decade ago? >> i believe so. every american president since 1948 was committed to israel's security and survival and that goes for democrats and republicans. it is clear. no american president really has ever -- has ever even conceived of the possibility not to be for israel's survival? >> when you
how concerned are you about the future of israel today? >> i'm, of course, terribly concerned because israel is the only place where jews have after all come to build their own state, 2,000 years after they have lost it to the romans, and if god forbid something happens to that state, the jewish people would not be able to take it, to deal with it, two catastrophes in our memory, it is impossible to bear and, therefore, really, we're committed to the security of israel and we try whatever...
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i want to bring in congressman steve israel who joins us right now. congressman, thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> let me start with this. even john boehner said now is the time to deal with immigration. but, you know the questions you were just talking about. is will some of your colleagues on the far right, tea partyiers, perhaps, support this path to citizenship for illegal immigrants? >> well, you know, jackie kucinich had it exactly right. this has the prospect of s success. it's all about whether house republicans are willing to stand up to the tea party base. you've got a bipartisan group of senators left and right advocating a path forward. you've got the president of the united states who will unveil his views on a path forward. what this comes down to now is will these house republicans who have pandered to their intolerant tea party base, who have fed into the extremism of that tea party base, are they willing to stand up to the tea party and do what's right for america? we'll see whether they're able to amass the votes to get us f
i want to bring in congressman steve israel who joins us right now. congressman, thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> let me start with this. even john boehner said now is the time to deal with immigration. but, you know the questions you were just talking about. is will some of your colleagues on the far right, tea partyiers, perhaps, support this path to citizenship for illegal immigrants? >> well, you know, jackie kucinich had it exactly right. this has the prospect...
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i have always said i am a supporter of israel. i'm committed to effectively and efficiently using every single taxpayers' collar the right way. i am fully committed to implementing the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. i will work with the service chiefs as we officially open combat positions to women. >> you said the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. i would like to answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> i'm not going to give you a yes or no. i think it's far nor complicated. >> and to go on al jazeera, a foreign network, broadcasting propaganda and to explicitly agree with the characterization of the united states as the world's bully is not the conduct one would expect of a secretary of defense. >> all right. let's get right to it. we're joined now by "washington post" political columnist dana milbank, professor james peterson of lehigh university, and msnbc contractor jimmy williams. dana, i'm going to start with you. we saw freshman sen
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he didn't talk about israel. he didn't talk about anything that we usually talk about that we've got to defend ourselves. it was more like -- it was peaceful. it was almost pacifist, almost. >> well, i think he's choosing -- this first term, he toggled back and forth between the sentiments of cairo and the reality of what we did in libya, for example. we put boots on the ground there. we supported what was going on there. so sometimes he's shown a willingness to use military force to change the facts on the ground. >> assuming -- >> what he's doing, he's going back to his original commitment with which he began the first term. >> he's speaking about ending wars and the country's national security today. what sounded to me a shot of neoconservative thinking. >> we, the people still believe that enduring security and lasting peace do not require perpetual war. but we are also heirs to those who won the peace and not just the war. we turned sworn enemies into the surest of friends and we must carry those lessons int
he didn't talk about israel. he didn't talk about anything that we usually talk about that we've got to defend ourselves. it was more like -- it was peaceful. it was almost pacifist, almost. >> well, i think he's choosing -- this first term, he toggled back and forth between the sentiments of cairo and the reality of what we did in libya, for example. we put boots on the ground there. we supported what was going on there. so sometimes he's shown a willingness to use military force to...
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our policy should be both to encourage stability, to encourage a peace agreement that would permit israel to live in peace and security with its neighbors, and at the same time, to encourage the establishment of democratic roots in the various countries in that region. i think they all go together. >> is it fair to say mubarak was a better partner in the mideast process than morsi in egypt, for instance? >> yes, of course, that's fair to say but that overlooks all of the other factors involved. the egyptian revolution was indigenous. it was the egyptian people expressing themselves, and while it's very clear that in terms of the middle east peace process he was much better, it's also clear that there were many other factors involved in his governance and the revolution by the people of egypt. one of the important questions that americans have to ask is, do we really believe in democracy which by its very terms means the right of self-governance, the word democracy is a combination of two greek words, demos people, kratzi the rule of. it's difficult because the right of people to govern th
our policy should be both to encourage stability, to encourage a peace agreement that would permit israel to live in peace and security with its neighbors, and at the same time, to encourage the establishment of democratic roots in the various countries in that region. i think they all go together. >> is it fair to say mubarak was a better partner in the mideast process than morsi in egypt, for instance? >> yes, of course, that's fair to say but that overlooks all of the other...
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so the time is right, and women bring, i think, an added value to our military, much like they do in israel and many other countries around the world. >> i had a chance to see you over the weekend and talk with you about the fact you appear briefly in the oscar nominated film "the invisible war." the timing of yesterday being the fact there were congressional hearings going on with women who have faced sexual assault within the military service. explain the timing of this because to me it struck me as kind of odd that this announcement would come on the same day as those hearings were taking place, where women are being assaulted time and time again and not being able to report to see justice done to their assailants, and now this, coming up to kind of propel women forward to the front lines. >> it is kind of an interesting mix of events that have taken place. 19,000 women and men a year are raped or assaulted. and only 13% actually report. we have a problem in many places, lackland airforce base was the topic yesterday of the hearing where we had military training instructors who took adva
so the time is right, and women bring, i think, an added value to our military, much like they do in israel and many other countries around the world. >> i had a chance to see you over the weekend and talk with you about the fact you appear briefly in the oscar nominated film "the invisible war." the timing of yesterday being the fact there were congressional hearings going on with women who have faced sexual assault within the military service. explain the timing of this...
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israel has never been as disliked and as isolated historically as it is today. and i think that has sunk in. and i think that's hurt netanyahu, and it gives obama a unique chance. >> for our viewers, by the way, that don't know the israeli elections yesterday, netanyahu will remain prime minister, but he's going to have to actually create a government with a more centrist party, right? >> a government -- >> that's going to demand negotiations with the palestinians. >> that's right. and you know, i don't expect that we'll have a breakthrough to comprehensive peace so quickly. but it is quite conceivable that the united states, supported by the europeans and most of the world, actually, might be able to fashion an agreement which would be provisionally accepted, both by the israelis and the palestinians, with hamas staying away, objecting, and with the israeli right wing objecting. but there would been an agreement and then the implementati implementation. >> might it not be possible -- i mean, you know so much about this that netanyahu being put kind of in somewh
israel has never been as disliked and as isolated historically as it is today. and i think that has sunk in. and i think that's hurt netanyahu, and it gives obama a unique chance. >> for our viewers, by the way, that don't know the israeli elections yesterday, netanyahu will remain prime minister, but he's going to have to actually create a government with a more centrist party, right? >> a government -- >> that's going to demand negotiations with the palestinians. >>...
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talking to old colleagues ensuring republicans and democrats of his commitment to close relationship to israel. where is he in the process? >> willie, there's been a real turn and things are now running senator hagel's and people around the table will be encouraged by this choice. senator barbara boxer of california, a democrat who withheld her support from senator hagel announced last night, she's now for him following long conversations she had with him by the phone and most importantly, senator hagel sent her a letter outlining fairly hawkish positions on iran and hezbollah designed to set aside a lot of people's worries about his past positions. also the administration is behind him and pentagon and white house working to schedule these visits you mentioned to senator schumer and others. also, he's reaching out to veteran's organizations as a key constituency saying i need your help. he used to head the uso and dad was a tail gunner in world war ii and one of the operatives, murr murray, is shepharding him and finally, they're getting together after letting him hang out so long. >> at the
talking to old colleagues ensuring republicans and democrats of his commitment to close relationship to israel. where is he in the process? >> willie, there's been a real turn and things are now running senator hagel's and people around the table will be encouraged by this choice. senator barbara boxer of california, a democrat who withheld her support from senator hagel announced last night, she's now for him following long conversations she had with him by the phone and most...
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steve israel, thank you. we'll have the latest on when they house will vote on the fiscal cliff tonight here on msnbc. we'll be right back with "hardball." stick around. [ man ] visa prepaid opened a new world for me. ♪ i have direct deposit on my visa prepaid. my paycheck is loaded right on my card. automatic. i am not going downtown standing in line to cash it. i know where my money is, because it is in my pocket. i got more time with my daughter, we got places to go. [ freeman ] go open a new world, with visa prepaid. more people go with visa. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to clean dentures daily. its unique micro-clean formula kills 99.9% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains, cleaning in a better way than brushing with toothpaste. that's why i recommend using polident. [ male announcer ] polident. cleaner, fr
steve israel, thank you. we'll have the latest on when they house will vote on the fiscal cliff tonight here on msnbc. we'll be right back with "hardball." stick around. [ man ] visa prepaid opened a new world for me. ♪ i have direct deposit on my visa prepaid. my paycheck is loaded right on my card. automatic. i am not going downtown standing in line to cash it. i know where my money is, because it is in my pocket. i got more time with my daughter, we got places to go. [ freeman ]...
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israel hen and the united states are perfectly aligned on this issue. >> the kind of surgical strike he was speaking of, how much could that set iran and its nuclear program back. >> even a full-scale attack couldn't actually stop the iranian program. you have secretary of state gates and then secretary of state -- secretary of defense panetta say even a full-scale attack would only delay the program one or two years. that's the trouble with the military option. it doesn't solve the problem. it might accelerate the program as iran went pedal to the metal, ignited the population against a u.s. attack and sprinted to a nuclear weapon. >> where would that take us in terms of another war? if there was a surgical strike, what does this mean? and nobody wants to get bogged down in another war. >> one country's surgical strike is another's pearl harbor. this is the danger. no matter how small you intend the nuclear option, no matter what your belief, the military option that you could contain this in some way the other country acts as if it had been attacked and you launch a full-scale war.
israel hen and the united states are perfectly aligned on this issue. >> the kind of surgical strike he was speaking of, how much could that set iran and its nuclear program back. >> even a full-scale attack couldn't actually stop the iranian program. you have secretary of state gates and then secretary of state -- secretary of defense panetta say even a full-scale attack would only delay the program one or two years. that's the trouble with the military option. it doesn't solve the...
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. >>> well, the right wing hawks are on thin ice after this tuesday's election in israel. benjamin netanyahu's party was expected to win big. but the big surprise was the rise of the new center. the center left party which means there is a future. right now will control 60 seats. and his rivals on the center left and left will have 60 as well. and that could force netanyahu to make peace overtures or possibly lose his job. we'll be right back. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. >>> for now decisions are upon us and we cannot afford delay. we cannot mistake absolutism for principle or substitute spectacle for politics or treat name calling as reasoned debate. >> welcome back to "hardball." those lines in the president's inaugural address don't exactly sound like fighting words, do they? but
. >>> well, the right wing hawks are on thin ice after this tuesday's election in israel. benjamin netanyahu's party was expected to win big. but the big surprise was the rise of the new center. the center left party which means there is a future. right now will control 60 seats. and his rivals on the center left and left will have 60 as well. and that could force netanyahu to make peace overtures or possibly lose his job. we'll be right back. email marketing from constant contact...
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and israel at that time. one of the things that we explore in the film is the war in lebanon in a fairly significant way. you get into the back story on what was happening between the plo and the israelis at the time. and we explore an event called the -- it's referred to as the massacres at sabra and, two refugee camps in bay ru which leads to the kahan commission in israel. reagan and begin had a fairly cold relationship at that point. >> that was my question. reagan is lionized because of the outcome of the cold war. he had great partner. gorbachev was one of the premiere statesman of the last century. he had no problem in the middle east. they could never get the right partner at the right time. reagan in his defense had nobody to talk to essentially in the middle east that wanted to move the agenda forward. >> i would say outside of the saudi government, yes, that's true. and that relationship between reagan and begin once it went cold had enormous impact. once we pulled out of lebanon, then what? you se
and israel at that time. one of the things that we explore in the film is the war in lebanon in a fairly significant way. you get into the back story on what was happening between the plo and the israelis at the time. and we explore an event called the -- it's referred to as the massacres at sabra and, two refugee camps in bay ru which leads to the kahan commission in israel. reagan and begin had a fairly cold relationship at that point. >> that was my question. reagan is lionized because...
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past positions on israel. now, i think he has had a very strong record in support of israel, but i think those are questions that i want to hear him answer. >> and i know hillary clinton has just come back from this health scare. she says she's feeling better than ever. what are her future prospects? i know you have been a long-time close friend and supporter. what about hillary clinton in 2016 if she chooses? >> i think hillary can do whatever she decides she wants to do. like so many of her friends and admirers, i hope she'll get a chance to get some rest, to take it easy for a little while. i certainly appreciate and respect the tremendous job she's done as secretary of state. the miles that she's travel anded what she's given to the country and so i hope that she's going to have a chance to decide to do what she would like to do and if she decides to run for president, she will be a terrific candidate, and i think she will gain lots of support, and i certainly hope that i'm going to see in my lifetime a wo
past positions on israel. now, i think he has had a very strong record in support of israel, but i think those are questions that i want to hear him answer. >> and i know hillary clinton has just come back from this health scare. she says she's feeling better than ever. what are her future prospects? i know you have been a long-time close friend and supporter. what about hillary clinton in 2016 if she chooses? >> i think hillary can do whatever she decides she wants to do. like so...
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they cite his positions on israel. they cite his positions on hezbollah and terror groups and all these other matters. why is it okay for his supporters to cite those issues, the very votes, right, like when he was one of two senators to vote against sanctions against iran, some people think that's a good thing. when people say, you know, it's independent and free wheeling speaking when he says that the israeli israelists kept the palestinians penned up like animals. but the opponents can't say, you want to raise those issues, we think it speaks to his judgment. i think there's fundamental problems with the things he said and voted on. >> i have no problem with that critique you just outlined. but i have a problem with extracting his positions and labeling an individual anti-semitic. >> i'm not for labeling people anything. i'm simply saying, many of the criticisms is, what speaks the to judgment? what is the judgment that led a man to vote this way and say the things that he said? and that's certainly fair game for a
they cite his positions on israel. they cite his positions on hezbollah and terror groups and all these other matters. why is it okay for his supporters to cite those issues, the very votes, right, like when he was one of two senators to vote against sanctions against iran, some people think that's a good thing. when people say, you know, it's independent and free wheeling speaking when he says that the israeli israelists kept the palestinians penned up like animals. but the opponents can't...
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. >> he has been able to neutralize the jewish and israel problems that he has had with chuck schumer. i'm not sure he is going to be able to quiet all the republicans that are nervous about him, but, again, this is the president's choice. he is a republican. i think it will be tough for republicans to oppose him in block. >> barring some unusual circumstance that we don't know about coming up at the hearing, jonathan, presidents do get the cabinets that they want most often, but we've also seen that the republican opposition has really struck by watching the republican questioning of both hillary clinton and john kerry. hillary clinton questioned about benghazi, clearly a setback, and a major crisis revealing that the state department was not prepared for the kind of security and threat warnings that they should have been on top of, but the questioning of hillary clinton by senator johnson and some of the others was, let's just say, less than effective. >> less than effective, and, you know, i would say as i wrote yesterday, rude, disrespectful. i think what we're seeing here is sena
. >> he has been able to neutralize the jewish and israel problems that he has had with chuck schumer. i'm not sure he is going to be able to quiet all the republicans that are nervous about him, but, again, this is the president's choice. he is a republican. i think it will be tough for republicans to oppose him in block. >> barring some unusual circumstance that we don't know about coming up at the hearing, jonathan, presidents do get the cabinets that they want most often, but...
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want them to continue to respect their treaty commitments under the camp david accords for peace with israel, for being one of the places from which a lot of economic growth for the region can happen, but we also want to celebrate their movement towards democracy. mubarak was an autocrat, was somebody who suppressed his people, and prevented free speech and an open society. so we have these twin tensions, as we look at the development of the last two years in tunisia, in libya, and in egypt. as you said at the outset of this segment, one of the big challenges we now face with incidents in benghazi, in algeria, and in mali, is how the instability in libya and egypt have now led to more weapons, more money, and more islamic extremists and jihadists destabilizing others in the region. we're in for a very rough ride. >> and i wanted to talk about that with you. "the washington post" editorial page had an interesting point today, saying that secretary clinton really conveyed the seriousness of what was happening in north africa, while the obama administration was being a little bit reluctant in t
want them to continue to respect their treaty commitments under the camp david accords for peace with israel, for being one of the places from which a lot of economic growth for the region can happen, but we also want to celebrate their movement towards democracy. mubarak was an autocrat, was somebody who suppressed his people, and prevented free speech and an open society. so we have these twin tensions, as we look at the development of the last two years in tunisia, in libya, and in egypt. as...
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enemies and convert them the way we did japanese and germans and ahead of the war and didn't talk about israel and make us a more hawkish country. it was what we can do with our enemies effectively. i thought that was a hell of a statement and people like cheney dying and boldin would have probably been secretary of state yesterday. the kagan crowd, 2,000 kagans, all over the white house as well. it was a real statement against the warhawks last night, really strong one. it may cause a lot of conflict. everybody talks about it, says if we attack iran, once we do, we're in permanent war with them. they will never stop going for nuclear. there is a window we can possibly move them away from nuclearization. that moment will go away and once it does we will never reclaim that chance. i think it was a peace message. >> you snknow pennsylvania bett than any of us. it's not a swing state and should be a swing state and could be again if republicans stop moving forward. how do blue collar democratic voters in that state, how do they respond to the president talking about gun control and gay marriage a
enemies and convert them the way we did japanese and germans and ahead of the war and didn't talk about israel and make us a more hawkish country. it was what we can do with our enemies effectively. i thought that was a hell of a statement and people like cheney dying and boldin would have probably been secretary of state yesterday. the kagan crowd, 2,000 kagans, all over the white house as well. it was a real statement against the warhawks last night, really strong one. it may cause a lot of...